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Sunday, September 9, 2018

Are there any other words of God outside the Bible?

Many people have been asking this question,  but today we got as much as many answers that we need that helps to understand the question. 

Jenny Hawkins
degrees in religion, philosophy, ethics; work as teacher, writer
Yes, of course, because there is such a variety available—science truths and philosophical truths and mathematical truths and even the truths found in other religions—and there are truths in other religions—because God’s truths are built into the fabric of the world and anyone who actually cares and goes looking for them will find them—and they have.
Think of it like physics—laws of motion, gravity, electro-magnetism, light waves—all of it. The physical universe was created according to these principles. They were in existence—and in use—long before we knew anything about them. There they always were, rocking along, doing what they do, available to be found when we went looking.
There is also a world of spiritual ‘physics’ where God’s moral, ethical and spiritual truths are also out there —available to be found. Some of them can be found by searching, and have been found through knowledge and through devotion. These truths exist in the manner in which all truths exist—independently—one doesn’t require a Bible to find them.
But there are two things to remember: one, there are no truths that contradict Biblical truths. There are a lot of things the Bible doesn’t cover, but what it does is foundational truth. Truth has both an absolute nature and relative applications and practices that vary and change—practices are not truths in the same sense as the principle behind them. Different practices are not different truths. All universal truths are God’s truths, built into reality itself, and those are the truths so many of us have in common.
And two, there is only one truth with a capital T in all of history. He is not limited to the Bible either, but it was written about Him. He is the central theme. He is the ultimate Truth and He is in the Bible. But then, He too can be found everywhere and anywhere. The Bible is an aid—not a limiter.
Mardick Nadjarian
former The Cardinal Rule Is Love, gave his own answer
There are no books with words of God, there are some books written by men who were inspired in God and that’s the extent of it.
This so called sacred books have some positive messages to man but they also have aspects that are not holy, they are corrupt and misleading. Everything that is touched by man gets corrupt.
But, since man has the urge to fulfill his religious and spiritual nature needs to cling and believe that a particular book presented to him by religious leaders is the word of God, otherwise he feels without an anchor, even if faults are encountered in its pages are overlooked.
Man is an evolving being with a spiritual nature that has evolved through time and periodically received revelatory assistance from especial beings; Jesus was one divine being, actually a Creator Son who bestowed himself on the world to reveal God ‘s true nature and personality.
Going back about 2000 years before Jesus an other divine being appeared Machiventa Melchidezek who taught the concept of one God to a group of disciples that included his best pupil Abraham, who carried his work and established the beginnings of the Jews religion.
Between this two divine beings evolutionary religion took off and in this period many prophets showed up, and when Jesus appeared with a major revelation about the true nature of God and what constitutes true worship and religion was not accepted by the great majority of his contemporaries.
Nevertheless a new religion was born out of a small group of followers who created a religion about the resurrected Jesus but not strictly of his teachings.
Unfortunately his teachings were corrupted too
But, fortunately God’s always present watch care has determined that now we are due for an other revelation, this time in the form of a BOOK, especially commissioned by HIM.
Bears the cosmic contextual name of our planet URANTIA. It’s not the word of God directly, but is the closest ever approached by man.
It is commissioned by God and is directed and revealed by spiritual beings of different spiritual levels, ranks, positions in the conduct of cosmic affairs that encompasses the entire material and spiritual creation, supervised and authoritatively confirmed and certified by Jesus as he was known on earth in the flesh, the actual Creator of our Universe.
There you will find everything humans wanted to know and still waiting to find out.
Rachel M. Garcia
God’s follower, gave her own answer
God is an almighty God, and God is so rich! God’s words are endless, and God can speak and supply man with the truth at any time and in any place. How could He only speak those limited words recorded in the Bible? Besides, the Lord Jesus’ work and words were not fully recorded in the Bible. Then how can God’s end-time work and words be recorded in the Bible? Almighty God says, “The four Gospels have no more than a hundred chapters altogether. They record nothing but the limited things, such as cursing the fig tree, Peter’s denying the Lord three times, Jesus’ appearing to his disciples after his crucifixion and resurrection, his teachings on fasting, on prayer, and on divorce, his birth, his genealogy, his appointing the disciples…, yet people take these things as treasures and even compare today’s work with them. And they even think that Jesus did no more than these works from his birth, as if God could only do these works and could do no more works. Isn’t this fallacious?” (from The Word Appears in the Flesh) God’s words have made it clear that the details of God’s end-time work were not recorded in the Bible . It’s because God’s end-time work is a new work God does outside of the Bible. Although we read the Old and New Testament, it can’t prove that the Bible contains all God’s words, much less that there are no more words of God outside the Bible. God is the source of life and is the origin of all things. His abundance is inexhaustible and infinite, and is unfathomable to any created being. How can the Bible make all God’s deeds clear? So, we can’t circumscribe God’s words within the Bible. The records in the Bible are so limited!
Rick Li... Tried in making people understand,  he said that...
This question has been perplexing those who believe in God for thousands of years. Only God can solve this difficult problem. I recommend a video to my brothers and sisters to see. Say it very clearly and very exciting. thank God!
"Faith in God" (4) - Is Believing in the Bible,  Equivalent to Believing in the Lolrd.
Most people in the religious world believe tthatthe Bible is the canon of Christianity, that one must hold on to the Bible and base one's belief in the Lord entirely on the Bible, and that one cannot be called a believer if one departs from the Bible. So is a belief in the Lord and a belief in the Bible one and the same? What exactly is the relationship between the Bible and the Lord? The Lord Jesus once reprimanded the Pharisees with these words, "Search the scriptures; for in them you think you have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And you will not come to me, that you might have life" (John 5:39-40). The Bible is merely a testimony of God, but it does not contain eternal life. Only God is the truth, the way and the life. In that case, how do we look at the Bible in a way that accords with the Lord's will?

Arthur Gregory
former Social Worker, threw more light on the question 

In my view as a Baha’i God has manifested Himself through His Messengers and Prophets over the millennia before historic times and will continue to do so as long as humanity continues.
We have no record of the Word of God in ancient times but believe they were given:
“And now regarding thy question, “How is it that no records are to be found concerning the Prophets that have preceded Adam, the Father of Mankind, or of the kings that lived in the days of those Prophets?” Know thou that the absence of any reference to them is no proof that they did not actually exist. That no records concerning them are now available, should be attributed to their extreme remoteness, as well as to the vast changes which the earth hath undergone since their time.
“Moreover such forms and modes of writing as are now current amongst men were unknown to the generations that were before Adam. There was even a time when men were wholly ignorant of the art of writing, and had adopted a system entirely different from the one which they now use. For a proper exposition of this an elaborate explanation would be required.”

The question should more properly be though what were the revealed words of God that we know of.
For me the authentic repositories of the Word of God include
The Holy Qur’an:
The Writings of the Bab:
The Writings of Baha’u’llah
The above works of the Bab and Baha’u’llah have only been partially translated into English and other languages.

John Simpson
A Christian, tried to give full analysis that helped to understand the question 

While the Bible is God's only written revelation, it is not God's only revelation. God has more to say to us than is in the Bible. His general revelation in nature, man, history, art and music offers vast opportunities for continual exploration. The following chart summarizes this relationship:
Special Revelation General Revelation
God as Redeemer God as Creator
norm for church norm for society
means of salvation means of condemnation
The Role of Special Revelation. Special revelation contributes uniquely to Christian theology. The Bible alone is infallible and inerrant . Further, the Bible is the only source of both God's revelation as Redeemer and his plan of salvation. Thus Scripture is normative for all.
The Bible alone is infallible and inerrant. The Bible is normative for all Christian thought. It is a revelation of Christ (Matt. 5:17; Luke 24:27, 44; John 5:39; Heb. 10:7). The task of the Christian, then, is "to bring every thought captive to Christ" (2 Cor. 10:5) as revealed in Scripture. We must think as well as live Christocentric lives (Gal. 2:20; Phil. 1:21).
The Bible alone reveals God as Redeemer. While general revelation manifests God as Creator, it does not reveal him as Redeemer. The universe speaks of God's greatness (Ps. 8:1; Isa. 40:12-17), but only special revelation reveals his redeeming grace (John 1:14). The heavens declare the glory of God (Ps. 19:1), but only Christ declared his saving grace (Titus 2:11-13).
The Bible alone has the message of salvation. In view of God's general revelation all are "without excuse" (Rom. 1:20). For all who sin apart from the [written] law will also perish apart from the law" (Rom. 2:12). General revelation is a sufficient ground for condemnation. However, it is not sufficient for salvation. One can tell how the heavens move by studying general revelation, but not how to go to heaven (see Heathen, Salvation of). For "there is no other name under heaven [except Christ's] given to men by which men must be saved" (Acts 4:12). To be saved, one must confess "Jesus is Lord" and believe that God has raised him from the dead (Rom. 10:9). But they cannot call upon someone of whom they have not heard, "and how can they hear without someone preaching to them?" (Rom. 10:14). Thus, preaching the Gospel in all the world is the Christian's great commission (Matt. 28:18-20).
The Bible is the written norm. Without the truth of Scripture there would be no Church, for "the church is built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets" (Eph. 2:20). The revealed Word of God is the norm for faith and practice. Paul said "all Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, training, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness" (2 Tim. 3:16). However, not all unbelievers have access to a Bible. Nonetheless, God holds them responsible to his general revelation. For "all who sin apart from the [written] law will also perish apart from the law," since they have a law in their hearts (Rom. 2:12, 14).
The Role of General Revelation. While the Bible is all true, God has not revealed all truth in the Bible. Whereas the Bible is only truth, it is not the only truth. All truth is God's truth, but all God's truth is not in the Bible . General revelation, then, plays an important role in God's plan, and as such it has several unique roles.
General is broader than special revelation.General revelation encompasses much more than special revelation. Most of the truths of science, history, mathematics, and the arts are not in the Bible. The bulk of truth in all these areas is found only in God's general revelation. While the Bible is everywhere scientifically accurate, it is not a textbook on science. The mandate to do science is not a redemption mandate; it is a creation mandate. Right after God created Adam he commanded him to "fill the earth and subdue it" (Gen. 1:28). Likewise, there are no mathematical errors in God's inerrant Word, but then again there is very little geometry or algebra and no calculus in it either (see Science and the Bible). Similarly, the Bible records accurately much of the history of Israel, but has little on the history of the world, except as it bears on Israel. The same is true of every area of the arts and science. Whenever the Bible speaks in these areas, it speaks authoritatively, but God has largely left the discoveries of his truths in these areas to a study of general revelation.

Baker Encyclopedia of Christian Apologetics

David Bushey
Gave it up a while ago. Atheist and antitheist.
An Atheist tried to answer also
HAH! Ooooooooh YEAH! Lots! First you have the apocrypha! These are stories like Jubilee that try to ‘fix’ and ‘explain’ some of the errors in early books like Noah’s flood and Moses’s wanderings and just makes everything wierder. See, back when the bible was being canonized, every schizoid frea- er, ‘prophet’, they wanted their mythology crammed in too. Well this just wouldn’t do, so they got cut out.
Some, like the gospel of Thomas, were pretty heavily censured (especially when it had Jesus talking like Socrates and saying the he was no more the child of god than any of us.) while others are just stupid (Like child jesus turning egyptian kids into pigs for teasing him.)
Then you have the Catholic omission. Protestant bibles tend to ignore about twenty or so books the Catholics follow, most of them dealing with the Catholic Church and catholic authority and the dictates of popes.
Then you have the writings in the Torah and Koran.
Then you have things like Jehova’s Witness and Mormons.
Makes you wonder why the ‘all powerful sky daddy’ can’t get his story straight.

James Oppenheimer-Crawford also gave his own answer
former Psychiatric Rehabilitation Practitioner at New York (1975-2009)

Sure. The word of God comes up in all kinds of situations, and the thoughts of religious leaders are often wise enough to a wide range of people that they are preserved. Actually, this is what they think happened to cause most of the Prophets’ words to be preserved. In one case, at least three different prophets have been identified within one scroll, and the feeling is that the writings of another were added to an extant scroll because they had a very similar feel, even if they obviously were written in a very different time.
The Church Fathers have been long recognized as having a lot to say of great wisdom. They are not perfect, of course, just as the Bible certainly is not perfect.
There are lots of moments in literature where God speaks.
There’s that moment in the movie, “Love Story,” where Oliver has just taken Jenny to meet his parents. She sees, for the first time, just how affluent the family is, as the house is a chateau.
Back in their rooms at school, he asks her, his face full of pain, “How can you love me, seeing who I am?”
She answers, “That’s what it’s all about, Preppie.”
That’s Grace.

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